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Where do we grow from here? Moving forward with downtown survey results

Friday, November 20, 2009
People have a lot of ideas for downtown Le Mars, according to recent results of a Main Street Iowa-directed survey and analysis.

Requests from the about 350 people surveyed range from general, like add more stores downtown, to specific suggestions, like bring in Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant.

Nearly 75 percent of those surveyed placed high priority on expanding and recruiting business.

"The biggest thing we're taking from the Main Street Analysis Survey is just a confirmation of our goal to get other stores throughout the community," said Le Mars Main Street Director Mary Reynolds. "One thing the chamber doesn't like to see is an empty building. The Chamber's no. 1 goal is to recruit, assist individuals moving a business here or opening a new business."

Business recruitment is ongoing, she said.

"In the past four or five weeks, we've met with different realtors to show five businesses buildings that are open around Le Mars," Reynolds said.

The businesses considering locating in Le Mars were a variety, and several were invited by the Le Mars Area Chamber of Commerce.

"However, one major chain and another business called us," Reynolds added.

The surveys and analysis pointed out three needs the community feels it has in terms of adding businesses, she said.

Dressing it up

In the survey, 124 people said they would support a new clothing business in Le Mars.

Most requests were simply for a general store, but 38 people requested children's or family clothing, and 26 asked for additional women's clothing downtown.

Seven suggested adding a men's clothing store.

"(Add a) guys' clothing store like Aeropostale for 15-30 year olds," one said.

According to the analysis, clothing businesses are difficult to recruit for downtown business districts, but Le Mars' existing cluster of clothing and accessory businesses downtown makes downtown Le Mars "a destination for clothing."

"Still," the analysis report added, "the best prospects may be realized in opportunities for existing businesses to expand into new merchandise lines."

Eating out

As for adding dining options, 68 people made requests on the surveys.

Several suggested adding a café downtown, while others asked for an "American food" restaurant and a few mentioned a fast food chain.

The downtown analysis pointed out that residents living within a 20-minute drive from the center of downtown Le Mars are spending about $4 million at restaurants in other communities.

Most of the money leaving Le Mars is spent at full-service restaurants -- those that offer waiter service during the entire meal.

That situation, the analysis report stated, might suggest prospects are good for existing restaurants to expand or new establishments to open in Le Mars, especially full-service ones.

New prescription

Pharmacy requests were also high on the survey, with 48 people mentioning recruiting a pharmacy specifically.

Some suggested a new pharmacy combined with a variety store or a soda fountain.

The analysis report said the demand in Le Mars for a downtown pharmacy was "relatively strong."

General merchandise requests on the survey were equally prominent -- showing up in 50 people's answers.

About one-half said they'd like to see a department store added downtown, including names like JCPenney, Younkers and Kohl's.

The other half sought discount and variety stores like Ben Franklin and other discount centers.

These four businesses were the most frequently requested, but survey answers offered a creative variety of possibilities.

An acupuncture business, an antique shop, a book store, a music store, a cigar shop, and other specialty shops were also suggested.

On with the show

Adding entertainment to the downtown, especially updating or replacing the movie theater, was a major survey request.

When the Royal T III movie theater closed last week, that issue came to a head.

"The Chamber is working very hard to find a new owner," Reynolds said. "We've had one person from across the U.S. and three other local people show interest."

A few years ago, she said, there was a group interested in opening a theater south of Le Mars.

"That did not come to fruition," Reynolds said. "Now with the dialysis center downtown we need something nice for people to turn to. We'd like to see the theater restored to its initial glory for a nostalgic return to that 'going to the movie' experience."

How to recruit

The analysis report suggested capitalizing on repeat business -- it found the most people shop in downtown Le Mars for cards, gifts, clothing and shoes.

"As a cluster, these business types work to enhance the 'draw' for downtown Le Mars and could serve as strong building blocks for business expansion and recruitment efforts," the report stated.

Le Mars planners, the report added, should look for business growth opportunities that compliment these businesses and service businesses like banks, which draw the most people downtown Le Mars.

The analysis also pointed out that Le Mars draws customers from outside the community for auto sales and parts, specialty food stores and limited-service eating places (like fast food restaurants).

These strengths can be expanded upon, the report said.

The places Le Mars loses shoppers to other communities -- department stores, home furnishing stores, building materials stores, gas stations, health and personal care stores and full-service restaurants -- might suggest unmet needs in the community, the report added.

The Chamber is reviving an advisory committee to help with downtown recruiting ideas, Reynolds said.

"It's 15-20 people, including all the bank presidents, who can help hone in on what are our areas of need for new business so we can target them more closely," Reynolds said.

That group, the Business Improvement Committee, can then give direction to city planners, she said.

"Our preference is expanding existing businesses, but we're open to new ones coming in as well," Reynolds added.

In a survey of more than 20 businesses, about 43 percent said it was highly or moderately likely they would expand in the next one or two years.

In addition, about 15 percent of the businesses surveyed said they'd likely expand their inventory in the next year, and another 15 percent said they'd likely add employees in that same time period.

These are positive indicators for downtown Le Mars, the analysis report stated.

Downtown appeal

More than 50 people commented on the appearance of downtown Le Mars in the survey, asking for updates and renovations.

Several urged planners to consider setting a unified theme for downtown, similar to the Dutch look of Orange City.

The biggest request was improving the look of storefronts.

Others suggested improving the theater's outside appearance, restoring the top levels of buildings and putting up more seasonal decorations in stores.

Reynolds said transforming some upstairs apartments of businesses is among her five-year goals. She'd like to see them revamped with a more funky, modern look to draw young professionals.

"These apartments could be a good second source of income for store owners," she said.

Only 12 percent of those surveyed put high priority on creating more downtown housing.

The analysis report suggested adding to the "Ice Cream Capital of the World" theme in the next few years.

Keep both the local resident and the "Ice Cream Capital of the World" visitor in mind when approaching public improvements, the report said.

"We haven't capitalized on it to the level it should be done," Reynolds said. "It's going to come in increments. We are working on three different projects right now that focus on ice cream."

Listening to the community

One major course of action the analysis suggested was to keep an ear to public input on any downtown improvements.

"This is a good start -- asking the citizens," one respondent wrote on the survey.

The survey is just that, the beginning, Reynolds said.

"We plan to visit with every business in the community and talk more in depth about this," she explained. "And secondly, we're forming a focus group of people to meet and look at the study, see what we can build on and what things we can fix."

The group will city officials, business people and citizens from all demographics, Reynolds said.

"We want to get their directions, as well as our Main Street Committees,'" she said. "We need to move forward to try to implement some of those changes."

Free copies of the survey and analysis results are available at the Chamber office.


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What most don't realize is that a major chain be it KFC, Kohls, or a Jimmy John's already have done their demographics research and being 30 minutes from a metro area they are more than likely to pass on Le Mars. If you check with any major franchise, the first requirement is population and 25k for the entire Plymouth county doesn't cut it. The major drawback for more shops downtown is that when or if people just want to pop in over their noon hour to get a present, cards, or heck a pair of needed socks, there is no parking downtown. When Adlers was downtown, it usually took 3 or 4 trips around the block to find a place to park and by that time if you had a half hour lunch break it was time to get back to work. Between the bars and eating places noon time would be shoppers go to Wally World.

-- Posted by economics101 on Fri, Nov 20, 2009, at 11:29 AM

The next process in line for a franchised store is LOT'S of money (cash). Here is YUM Brands qualifications.

Net Worth Liquidity

KFC $1.5mm $750m

Taco Bell $1.5mm $750m

LJS $1.0mm $360m

A&W $1.0mm $360m

Pizza Hut $250m $125m

And then you still need to meet demographics.

-- Posted by economics101 on Fri, Nov 20, 2009, at 2:25 PM

Economics101, you are exactly right. Le Mars is at that awkward size where we could use stores like J.C. Penny or Kohls and such. But maybe we just aren't large enough to support it ourselves. But if we did, we would have Sioux Center and Orange City shoppers coming to town. I hope we don't do anymore down town "improvements" like the cobblestone. People will not shop downtown because of how it looks. As long as it is neat, clean and organized. They will because it has what they want, good prices and easy access.

-- Posted by cranemaster on Fri, Nov 20, 2009, at 2:46 PM

Preserve the storefronts unique looks. I like the older architecture and masonry work. Each store being unique adds to the flavor of the town. The store sizes downtown are not large enought to support a Kohls, or JCPenny as the amount of inventory and space needed. I would like to see some home grown businesses.

-- Posted by Michael Lamb on Fri, Nov 20, 2009, at 3:03 PM

cranemaster: Usually a major chain will look at the distance from Sioux City to Le Mars and protect the territory of the Sioux City shop. I checked into a Jimmy John's in Le Mars and they protected the what will be 2 (1 current and 1 coming)locations in town. Plus they looked at the population pull within 20 miles and Le Mars wasn't big enough. The reason why a Spencer, Iowa has the chain stores we don't is because they are located in the middle of no where USA. Same applies to Cherokee, Atlantic, Denison, Storm Lake, Sheldon, Orange City, and Sioux Center to name a few. It's not a fault of Le Mars it's a curse to be so close to Sioux City.

-- Posted by economics101 on Fri, Nov 20, 2009, at 3:08 PM

ADifferentView, I will agree I like the looks of the original buildings and they should preserve them if at all possible. I just don't want to see them try that artificial retro look again.

economics101, your comment makes cense. It is to bad we are in right the middle, either to far, to close, to big or to small.

-- Posted by cranemaster on Fri, Nov 20, 2009, at 4:41 PM

I would like to see a Children's store in Le Mars. The main reason I go to sioux city to shop is because I dont always want to go shopping for my kids at Walmart. I myself can go to maurices if I need something nice but my kids are small.

Just kids was a great kids store but the prices if I remember were a bit high. We need something like A Children's Place or Gymboree. Both can be higher priced though. If sears could expand to be a little more like the sioux city location they would rake in the customers. I rarely go to this sears because they just do not carry anything.

The old Radio shack would be a good spot for a childrens store. But then the parking issue can become a problem because all the spots are taken from the pizza ranch.

-- Posted by Amanda83 on Sat, Nov 21, 2009, at 11:46 AM

Amanda, there are many small children store chains that offer great bargains for childrens clothing and supplies. I think you have a great idea and keeping the cost reasonable is the key to getting and retaining customers.

I for one would love to see a Ryans Steakhouse in town. (I don't think anybody ever orders the steak as the buffet is soooooooo good).

If we have a restaurant or store, parking will be the problem curbing its success. Of course, with additional bicycle racks being installed, maybe parking won't be the big issue. We used to have bus service. Maybe rethinking the downtown and city configuration and needs could develop into a more coefficient working system.

-- Posted by Michael Lamb on Sun, Nov 22, 2009, at 12:38 PM

I personally don't think that adding a Jimmy John's downtown is a good idea. We have 2 sub sandwich shops in LeMars as it is. I think there are enough restraunts in that area. I do agree with Amanda about adding another children's store. I have 2 little boys a 3 year old and a 19 month old and I can't find clothes for them at Walmart because all they have is girl clothes. We also need more entertainment. I live in Marcus and I have to travel to Sioux City or Orange City just to go to a movie. If you really want to keep business in the LeMars area, I would think that adding more entertainment and family things to do to this area. Add more parking spaces. Downtown is a disaster and a half when you are in a hurry to get something and you have to drive around the block a million times just to find a place to park and then you have to walk three blocks to get where you are trying to go. These are just my opinions.

-- Posted by TonyaSue on Mon, Nov 23, 2009, at 7:31 AM

We have no investors in LeMars willing to entertain the idea of a new movie theatre? Somebody has to help out!

-- Posted by BulldogFanz on Mon, Nov 23, 2009, at 9:22 AM

I would like to see Dollar General or Family Dollar come back to Le Mars. It would be nice to be able to run in and out of a store to make a quick purchase. All the check outs there are in Wal-Mart....and the majority aren't open.... and most of the time we wait in line and wait in line and wait in line.

-- Posted by Olivia on Mon, Nov 23, 2009, at 7:08 PM

Good discussion on this topic. The theatre idea would be good for downtown. Does anyone know how much it costs to rent and run a current feature movie? I always wondered how much the movie producers got for their most current product. I also wonder if there exists a digital theatre projection system. It would be nice to watch an untangled movie.

-- Posted by machiavelli on Tue, Nov 24, 2009, at 6:51 AM

machiavelli:

Don't quote me, but I think usually it's not a s much a cost as it is a percentage. If you get a brand new box office hit rented the movie company will take in the neighborhood of 85 to 90 percent of your ticket sales as rent. A 2 or 3 week old movie around 50 to 65 percent. And a 4 to 5 week old movie in the area of 40 to 50 percent.

-- Posted by economics101 on Tue, Nov 24, 2009, at 10:48 AM

Interesting. Thanks Econ.. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

-- Posted by machiavelli on Tue, Nov 24, 2009, at 6:44 PM

Remember days of old....J.C. Penny's, Ben Franklin, Pamida, to name a few. Le Mars use to be a bustling downtown..with many options of shopping to choose from.

Then along came Walmart...and many citizens of Le Mars welcomed it with "open arms". Finally a store to shop all under one roof. As with most towns, cities, Walmart killed downtown Le Mars.

Le Mars already has enough fast food places to eat; what Le Mars does not have...is a place to sit down over a cup of coffee, breakfast, late night meal. Truckers biggest complaint while waiting for a trailer at Wells Blue Bunny, is that there is NO place to grab a bite to eat after 9pm where they can sit down, relax, and relish a good meal....not fast food.

Downtown parking has always been a major issue in Le Mars, and no one does anything to improve it. Sioux Center has a nice parking lot right smack in the middle of downtown. Next the city will want to add more store front designs and use up some more parking spaces.

-- Posted by deadend on Tue, Nov 24, 2009, at 8:44 PM

Other similar sized towns have well-supported "cheap-seats" type theaters, where the movies have been out already for 4-6 weeks and they are cheaper, with cheaper concessions to boot! Of course they aren't brand new releases, but they still keep cycling through, nonetheless! It's an idea worth considering!

-- Posted by TuesdaysGone on Mon, Nov 30, 2009, at 3:55 PM

Wal*Mart has killed the downtown of a LOT of small towns like Le Mars. Thats why I don't shop Wal*Mart, and I DO shop downtown. It isn't worth the hassle of Wal*Mart, plus the money we spend, STAYS in Le Mars!!!!

Wal*Mart is NOT a good neighbor!

-- Posted by jwduke01 on Mon, Nov 30, 2009, at 9:00 PM

I shop Wal-Mart because they are open when I am available to shop weeknights and Sundays. Saturdays are an option for shopping downtown but there really isn't much down there that I can afford. I wish that I could. If I go into a store to leisurely "shop" but don't find something to buy, I feel bad when I have to walk out empty handed. It's easier to do that in a larger store - I don't feel the pressure to buy something. Maybe the person who suggested that stores expand their merchandise options has a good idea. And again - hours of operation during the evening hours might help the downtown area. One night a week is not habit forming for me. I can't get used to that. But what do I know? I am "just an outsider" trying to live in Le Mars, Iowa.

-- Posted by justanoutsider on Wed, Dec 2, 2009, at 12:42 PM


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