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LCS board puts ISL issue to voters

Monday, July 28, 2008

Le Mars Community School District residents will cast their vote on Sept. 9 on whether the district will participate in the Instructional Support Levy.

The school board met at noon Friday to hold a public hearing on the resolution to participate. After hearing from two members of the public, the board unanimously passed the resolution and set the date for the vote.

The Instructional Support Levy (ISL) as proposed by the board, is a school financing option funded by a mix of state aid, ISL property tax and ISL income surtax, Superintendent Dr. Todd Wendt explained to the board and audience. The money is used for the general fund expenses like salaries, textbooks and school bus fuel.

Friday's public hearing resulted from a petition from district patrons requesting a vote on the issue after the school board proposed it.

That petition also meant a new resolution on the issue was needed.

The resolution as presented would allow for the ISL for 10 years, Wendt explained, beginning with the 2009-2010 school year.

"The amount of ISL can, by law, be up to 10 percent of the regular program district costs," Wendt said.

Wendt also said the Sept. 9 date for election was chosen because it is the regular school board election date and will thereby save the district the costs of a special election.

"Our consensus as a board is to support the programs that we believe are important for students in our district. We will do absolutely everything we can to keep that to a minimum," said board president Mark Stelzer. "We have no desire to be excessive in spending and we will not, and if good fortune is that we don't need it (ISL funds) at all in any given year we have the flexibility not to use it."

The ISL resolution calls for the board to review and determine the tax annually.

Le Mars resident Earl Draayer addressed the board during the public input portion of the hearing. Four members of the public attended the meeting.

"All I have to say to you is I would hope you sell this program better than you did last time," Draayer said, referring to the resolution and subsequent election in March, when the ISL was defeated.

"You have to point out to the community what benefit it is to them directly," Draayer said. "I attended the meeting the last time you had one, and there were a lot of things I didn't know you (the district) had.

You need to do a better job of selling this to the community."

Board member Patrick Murphy said, "Last time, there was a rash of misinformation to the community shortly before the election and we didn't rebut it properly."

"We have to inform the public of the cuts we have made this year (for 2008-09), and let then know all the potential cuts we have on the table pending our enrollment numbers," Murphy continued.

"We're passionate about the education of our students," said Stelzer.

"We have to get our community to understand how critically important support of education is for the well being of the community, and certainly for our students. But also for our community at large. No business wants to come to a community that's not supporting its local education, all forms of it," Stelzer said.


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-- Posted by dansmith on Sun, Aug 17, 2008, at 6:55 AM

Huskerfan

I am glad you brought up fund raising. That was a topic of discussion just today with my co workers. Are there laws against LCS or any public schools doing fund raising for the general fund? I know the ball that Gehlen has each year is deemed successful. Is this something that the parents/teachers/staff/supporters of LCS can put together or something like it? Good things to look into before we vote.

-- Posted by my4kids on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:50 AM

I can't vote yes-yet. The questions are not being answered. What is the long term plan to quit spending money they don't have? What cuts are going to be made if it doesn't pass? I read in the paper enrollment numbers will not be available until October. The vote will be over by then. Le Mars Community will probably be down at least 16 students that have to go to TK at either Gehlen or travel out of town. I wonder if that was thought of?

-- Posted by best4kids on Wed, Aug 13, 2008, at 3:39 PM

I will vote no (like I did last time) because I'm not giving power for people to fluxuate an interest rate for 10 years. 2 years I would have voted yes 3 years ok, but 10 years of high taxes that can go up by 10%? Yea NO. I can't believe that anyone would vote for that. I understand our kids need money but try fund raising. I bet you can accomplish most of your budget problems with fund raising. But nope lets stick everyone that is having hardships as it is with higher taxes. Let's make them pay more since we aren't getting taxed to death anyway. I can't believe that they want 10 years of our lives.

VOTE NO and let them come up with a better way to do this!!

-- Posted by Huskerfan on Wed, Aug 13, 2008, at 3:19 PM

There was an interesting article in the Le Mars Daily Sentinel today (August 11). I'm not sure if this article is available in the online version of the Sentinel. The article is titled "Iowa's tax burden rated five-year low" and is on the front page of the Sentinel.

The article states that 9.3% of the average Iowan's taxpayers income went to pay state and local taxes. This is according to a study by the Tax Foundation from Washington D.C.

Some of the opponents of the ISL claimed that about 50% of their money goes to pay all taxes (federal, state, local, and sales tax).

The Iowa sales tax rate is set at 7%. Many of us will in actuality will be paying less than 7% of their income on sales tax, since home mortgage payments are not subject to sales tax. There may be other purchases or bills that are also not subject to sales tax. It may be possible for someone to pay more than 7% if they are spending more than they are making, but that is not a good idea.

Anyway, if we assume 9% for state and local taxes and 7% for sales taxes, that would leave 34% for federal taxes. With all of the deductions that can be claimed for dependents, child tax credits, mortgage interest payments, etc. 34% seems pretty high to me for the average taxpayer.

I wonder how the opponents of the ISL came up with the 50% number?

-- Posted by gm on Mon, Aug 11, 2008, at 10:59 PM

The district receives about $11,550,000.00 from the state. The state money is about 82% of the money we are talking about here. That means roughly 18% comes directly from us in property taxes to cover what the state funding won't. This means roughly $2,450,000.00 needs to be collected here by us, from us, directly. Up until now the shortfall has been collected exclusively by adjusting our district property tax levy. We were down 81 kids last year which in dollar figures comes to roughly $445,500.00. Put that on top of the $165,000.00 (30 students) loss from 2 years ago and we are down $610,500.00 a year, from now on, until we gain back 111 students. When we realized the loss of 81 students in October of '07 we knew the budget for '08/'09 school year was in trouble. The Board decided we needed to cut at least 1/2 of the projected shortfall and hopefully use the ISL to cover the other roughly 1/2. The ISL failed and we made more cuts last spring until we had a balanced budget for this coming year. The reason we tried the ISL and continue to try the ISL is because of the income tax piece in the levy. It is designed to lessen the burden on property taxes and make up for it with an income tax.

This is all written from memory, before church Sunday morning. Please don't nitpick the figures if they are off a little. I have tried to portray the general idea of what happened and what we are trying to do in good faith.

We have a history of conservative tax levies in the past. Some may doubt we will continue to act in such a manner, I am sorry they feel that way. Vote YES, and tell everyone you know to vote YES with you. I gotta get going.

-- Posted by dansmith on Sun, Aug 10, 2008, at 7:51 AM

To economics101:

That is a valid question I have heard from several of my friends. My understanding is that most of the school's funding mechanisms are based on enrollment. Just because the gross revenue from taxes goes up doesn't mean that the schools will get it. Thanks to the state bureaucracy, I believe a formula dictates what the schools get back, based on enrollment. While enrollment can (and does) go up and down in cycles in our community, the last two years were drastic.

If we have benefitted some from the growth, I would also surmise that the housing growth you are referring to is one reason that the Board has been able to keep the tax rate (for school funding) quite low compared to many districts in Iowa.

On a related note, why does it seem that some arguing against the ISL frequently link it to the city and county governments? On more than one occasion, someone has criticized the city or county for some decision and then stated that is why they are voting against the ISL. I had one person tell me they were voting "no" because of the "brick intersection fiasco" in downtown Le Mars. I gave up on that conversation.

A "no" vote will not punish the city or county in any manner. It will not punish the school board or administrators. It simply denies resources for our children's education.

As I have written before, please make sure your decision on the ISL is based on solid information and priorities. Personally, I believe that leads to a firm YES.

-- Posted by LetsThinkAboutThat on Sat, Aug 9, 2008, at 2:51 PM

I'm not sure my thinking is correct, but I don't understand the City, School, and County raising or needing additional tax money. Here goes! In the last 10 years in Le Mars there has been a tremendous amount of new homes built, not 50k homes but 200k on up. Look at all the new additions created in 10 years not to mention the expensive homes on the golf course. Come on guys I need an explanation as to why you need more money? Along with most if not all housing assements going up along with the building it seems to me that it's time to stop spending.

-- Posted by economics101 on Sat, Aug 9, 2008, at 9:27 AM

Any cuts made would not be until next spring and would not affect students until a year from now. If it fails this time my guess is (I speak for no one else) it could come up again before the end of the coming school year. Let's remain positive and concentrate on getting it passed this time. Be active and make sure everyone you know votes YES.

-- Posted by dansmith on Fri, Aug 8, 2008, at 6:58 PM

Could someone please explain to me what they are going to cut if it doesn't pass again? We already lost tk and our child really needed it. I think sports should have to take a turn at cuts also. It is sad to see conflict between Gehlen and Community. Please treat all kids equal. It was probably there parents decision as to which school to send them too.

-- Posted by best4kids on Fri, Aug 8, 2008, at 6:02 PM

I am not sure why Gehlen's fundraising would suffer or should suffer at all because of an ISL tax passing or not passing. Catholic parents are NOT the only voters in the LeMars Community school district and contrary to nasty rumors, Gehlen parents and staff did not single handedly vote down the first attempt at the ISL tax. If you do the math you'll know that that would be next to impossible. And as a side note why not be more angry with the people who didn't vote at all then with the ones who did voice their opinion.

So Gehlen has a few people that are vocal enough (or rich enough if you want)to have their opinion heard that he/she does not want the ISL to go through-so what. I received a phone call in March from a LCS supporter/parent to vote no as well. I work with a LCS parent that voted no.

I am a Gehlen Catholic parent and noone knows how I voted (husband,friends, etc). But because of my religion and/or school association I was shunned by a LeMars Community School supporter and board member nonetheless. This is how we act as a community when things don't go our way??

I was saddended to see this turn into a LeMars Community School vs Gehlen school battle(to some people)when even in these blogs you'll see LCS parents that are angry with the whole situation and are still wanting to vote no.

Do I want my taxes to go up? No way. (I have tuition to pay :)) But I also do not want to see my alma mater have to make more budget cuts and see more EDUCATION suffer. So which way will I vote this time around? Stay tuned. But no matter which way it is I would hope that when my children come around to sell a candy bar that you give them the same respect I give yours when they ask me to buy cookie dough.

-- Posted by my4kids on Thu, Aug 7, 2008, at 3:07 PM

The school board has the freedom to word the vote any way they want--the 10 years and up to 10% are the maximum guidelines set by state code. Since they keep insisting they only need half of the allowable 10%, why not try setting the Instructional Support Levy at "an amount not to exceed 5% of the General Fund Budget?" That would meet the schools stated needs and give those of us who do not trust Dr. Wendt's spending practices a better sense of security. In addition, it shows a willingness to compromise with those who voted against the ISL a mere five months ago.

Another snafu by the school board was going along with Dr. Wendt's suggested cuts. They really should have thought it through and not allowed him to protect athletics the way he did. Had $30,000 been cut from athletics like it was from music and academics, maybe we could believe this new tax is needed for the EDUCATION of our students. As it is, I hear through the grapevine that bowling will now be added to the 'curriculum.' I hope that is a vicious rumor, but somehow I doubt it. There always seems to be money floating around for sports.

-- Posted by FoodForThought on Wed, Aug 6, 2008, at 11:06 PM

I would like to make a couple of points. First, why does it have to be ten years and up to 10% of our income and property taxes. Has anyone looked at what they already pay to the school in property taxes? Also, do we really think that after 10 years the school is going to say, ok, we let this tax go. If you vote yes, it will be a lifetime tax that you are adding for yourself. By my calculations, this is going to cost more than a pizza out a year!

-- Posted by '73 Grad on Mon, Aug 4, 2008, at 8:43 AM

Does anyone think that if gas would go down that maybe this would help the economy. With all the high prices of food,gas, and even taxes. If we could just drill in our own counrty that it may bring everything down? Just a thought.

-- Posted by cathy968 on Fri, Aug 1, 2008, at 7:50 AM

To gogetit:

Thank you for your support.

When 3 people place large ads in the paper and/or go on TV to campaign against the levy, and all 3 have Gehlen ties - it doesn't look good.

Perhaps you and some of your other Gehlen friends could place an ad in support of the ISL. It would help the chances of it passing, and would also improve relations between the two schools, which would ultimately benefit both schools and the community.

Again, thank you for the support.

-- Posted by gm on Thu, Jul 31, 2008, at 10:40 PM

I don't mind voting for something that isn't long term. 5 years is alot of time to put on families. Our economy as fallen apart in 6 months. Many families are facing hardships and now you want us to be subject to and increase in taxes? It's a very difficult thing to tell someone that doesn't have much to please give us more. It has nothing to do with helping the children. Of course I want our education to be the best for our children. But many of us are trying to raise our kids with higher gas prices and food prices soring. Why not have fund rasiers and money drives so people can give what they can instead of a forced way to give up there hard earned money?

Do you wonder why enrollment is down? Because property value in Le Mars is outragous. People think there homes are worth more than they are. And when people pay the high price for the home and realize they can't afford there home and have to move away.

I say you do something more simple to start with. You do a two year tax levy with a FLAT rate instead of giving power to a group of people to raise it whenever they want. I would vote for that cause it gives you two years to get your accounting straight and hopefully you can get it right instead of having the community bail you out of a jam again...

-- Posted by Huskerfan on Thu, Jul 31, 2008, at 2:25 PM

As a parent of Gehlen students, I want to go on the record as saying that I voted "yes" to the last vote and will vote "yes" again in September. I am not the only Gehlen parent that has supported the levy. (I have spoken to many) I will say, I grew tired of hearing the vote-down was due to Gehlen parents voting "no". I believe timing was a huge issue in the defeat of this proposal. Both Wells Dairy and Harkers had hundreds of employees feeling very insecure and unsure of their future incomes. Fear of higher taxes for many of these families may have played a part in the defeated vote. It also appeared to me, after reading the blogs, that a lot of people do not have a lot of faith in the administration at the school. I believe that you need to get out there to educate the public on what thier real "out of pocket" expense will be when they place a "yes" vote. I think most people agree that the education of the children in our community is of utmost importance. Vote yes - support the futures of our children and that of our community.

-- Posted by gogetit on Thu, Jul 31, 2008, at 1:48 PM

Lets all remember that every child is a child of God and we have to support ALL of Gods childern.

-- Posted by cathy968 on Wed, Jul 30, 2008, at 8:21 AM

Well put LetsThinkAboutThat.

I might also add that all of the public schools in Sioux county have the ISL. Sioux county is also a very conservative county, and they also have several strong private schools (Unity Christian, Western Christian, Spalding Catholic, and Netherlands Reformed).

I also think that the ISL not passing could have a negative impact on Gehlen in some ways. Catholic families who go to Le Mars Community might be resentful about the ISL not passing and might not give as much to the Catholic Churches in the area, whose monies collected on Sunday are primarily used to support Gehlen. I also think fundraising activities by Gehlen (such as the Gehlen Ball) could suffer. I hate to see it come to that, but I'm afraid it might if it doesn't pass.

-- Posted by gm on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 9:37 PM

I am as conservative as they come. I don't like waste and I prefer all levels of government stay as small as possible. HOWEVER, I believe our country should protect itself from our enemies. It should also provide the basic infrastructure needed for us to operate as a representative democracy. Finally, it should provide a solid education for its citizens.

The Le Mars Community School District is charged with providing the best education possible for its students. Thanks to the bureaucracy created by the state and federal governments, funding for all public schools is regulated and often micromanaged from Des Moines and Washington. Le Mars Community Schools has to operate in this quagmire.

First, let's clarify a couple things. The LCSD does NOT have one giant pot of money to spend on whatever the Board chooses. The school has a General Fund which pays its educators and support staff, classroom supplies, heating and cooling, etc. The basics.

LCS also receives the Physical Plant and Equipment Levy (PPEL). These funds allow the school to repair and build school buildings, BUT IT CANNOT BE USED OUTSIDE OF THOSE PARAMETERS! The district uses these funds to keep the physical structures up to date and safe for the students. (Just look how the Sioux City Schools ignored their buildings for much too long and now have had to pay dearly to just catch up with their needs.)

Now, the LCSD is hurting financially, right along with many in our community. The Board has taken rather significant steps to cut the budget, just as any of us must do in times of needs. Programs that our community valued have been cut or downsized.

Le Mars now has a choice. Do we let the cuts continue? Or, do we step up to the plate and decide to help? Yes, the ISL will require a few dollars from our pockets. But it does two things. First, it provides needed funds for our children's education, but it also sends a message to our students (and those considering a move to our community)about the value we place on them and their school years.

Finally, it has bothered me for some time that some in our community seem almost proud that our per-pupil-spending has ranked us near the bottom in Iowa for many years. Do we need to be wise fiscally? Absolutely. Should we spend so little on the students that teachers must struggle for adequate resources, including spending their own money? They are. Not a great selling point for our town.

The ISL is needed. Send the right message to our kids. We should be proud and supportive of our students and schools, and this is a chance to prove it.

-- Posted by LetsThinkAboutThat on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 7:06 PM

To Huskerfan & all,

If the ISL had gone without a petition the term of the tax would have been 5 years. I would have settled for that, would you?

If your child attends Gehlen he/she is in a fine school with much tradition.

I can see the passing of this ISL election helping your child by being a good example of how a community can cooperate. Showing all children and adults that everything we do won't necessarily impact our lives for the better immediately but is an investment for the future.

Another way it may affect your child and you is the possibility of attracting new families to live here in the community. New families might bring new friends, new classmates, and new business.

As far as doing what we please with the tax rate, do you really think you and I are that different? I don't know who you are, but I would never make that assumption about you.

Both of my boys have graduated from Community and moved away. Enjoy your kids while they are here.

Sincerely,

-- Posted by dansmith on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 5:55 PM

oldone1:

i care because i graduated from Lemars Community and i have benefited greatly from all the learning experiences i had there. I recieved a high quality education and i would just like all the children in the community to have the same opportunities that i had.

If i hadnt been involved in school activities, i dont know what i would have done with myself.. I probably would have been getting in trouble partly because there really isnt much else the community offers for its young people. but thats an entirely different argument altogether.

And your little car scenario really doesnt make any sense. The car your driving doesnt belong to you, it belongs to your neighbors. Teachers and administrators dont own the school. They are just the drivers, who are driving because they want to help the children. So when the drivers say they need alittle extra money, i would probably listen, because theyve been educated in driving and have been driving for awhile now.

And i agree, cut things that dont work, but the entire school does work. There are literally hundreds of examples of a highly functioning school dristrict. And each example has benefited from different pieces of the school. Dont break something that works.

-- Posted by former_resident on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 5:51 PM

huskerfan:

how will your child at gehlen benefit? is this what this is all about? you are asking what you will get out of it? how about all of the people in the community that dont have kids in school? should they turn their backson the school, also? isnt it the responsibility of the entire community to ensure certain things so that the community can thrive and prosper? educating our children is part of that.

That said, i think instead we should be focusing on why we need this tax. The school is expecting a decrease in enrollment. That means less funds. We could drop all sports that do not generate revenue, but is that good for the community? a large portion of our community enjoys watching the kids play in sporting events. but say those sports programs are cut, would that amount to enough money to cover the decrease? I wonder if the couple thousand dollars each coach makes would really make a difference in the overall budget.

I think we should ask ourselves why other school districts have the ISL tax. There are 340 out of 364 districts in Iowa who have the tax. All of the other school districts in our county have the ISL tax. Is it because their administractor couldnt manage their budget??? Or maybe those districts have the tax because they value a quality education for the children in their community.

-- Posted by former_resident on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 5:32 PM

Thanks for answering my question. It was a real and valid question.

Now if my kid goes to Gehlen how do you expect me to vote for higher taxes? How will my kid benefit from the higher taxes? And also you are asking alot with a ten year plan. How can we vote on something that will affect the next 10 years of living in Le Mars.? See these are valid points that are not addressed and they need to be. You are asking alot from us. Why can't you do it for 2 years and see where we are then? Why does it have to be ten years? And my last point how can we trust that giving you power to raise percentage rate when ever you please that it won't be taken advantage of?

-- Posted by Huskerfan on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 1:58 PM

To all,

The reason for the new middle school gym is the current gym is not large enough to hold practice safely and efficiently considering the numbers of middle school students participating in sports. The gym isn't the only thing being built though. We are also adding some classroom space to the north side of the middle school near the weightlifting building.

Now for the "If we are in need of all this money why did we find it necessary to build a new gym?" question. The School Board decided to do Phase 1 (Middle school Gym and some classrooms) months before enrollment dropped by 80 students.

The cuts we made before the ISL vote and after it's defeat were made to assure a balanced budget for the coming school year (2008-2009). The reason we are attempting the ISL at this time is because we suspect the enrollment will be down again this October compared to last October.

In other words last year's (Oct. 2007) certified enrollment set the district's funding from the State of Iowa for this coming school year (2008-2009). This year's (Oct. 2008) certified enrollment sets the State's share of our budget for next school year (2009-2010).

-- Posted by dansmith on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 12:50 PM

This is to "former_resident".

1. If you are truly a former resident why do you care?

2. I have done my research. Which is why I am upset. I have tracked the data and come to the conclusion the school must do more with less.

Please note the comments of "Huskerfan". They are very well put.

How about this: I want a new car. I need to haul my kids around to various events. And they will learn many things by riding around in my new car. But, I can't afford it. So, I'll just ask my neighbors to pay for it. Hold on, they already told me once that they would like to help but no, they won't cause they cannot afford to help me.

This gets better. I am askng them again, because it is for the children and they really need a nice new car to ride around in and learn. Probably, my neighbors will listen but say no again. Does this sound crazy? You bet. But this is EXACTLY what the school board and many of you want.

The school has less kids enrolled. The state provides less money for less kids enrolled in school. The school cannot over extend its' own budget because it did not plan for the loss of kids. The local economy sucks. Taxes are up and income is down. This is a recession.

Practically everything at the grocery store costs more. And on and on.

Why should I as a tax payer have to take on a greater burden for the school.

This is not a blame game but reality.

Cut back on things that don't work or don't add revenue for the school.

-- Posted by oldone1 on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 11:58 AM

I have a question. If we are in need of all this money why did we find it nessasary to build a new gym? It really wasn't needed but we built it anyway. Why? Now you are asking a community in a bad economy to give more money when it looks like it spent on unnessasary projects. Please someone help me understand this.. You keep throwing "The children need our help" at us but we have a tough enough time raising our children in a economy where gas, food, clothes and other things we need are so high in price. Its a very hard thing to swallow right now and you are asking us to pay more.

-- Posted by Huskerfan on Tue, Jul 29, 2008, at 9:17 AM

I understand the frustrations that community members have about a failed budget and, as always, any increase in taxes is going to stir up controversy, but it is important that our children get a clear message that we care about them and their education or this community will continue to diminish! I have heard too many times kids talking about how they cannot wait to get out of this town and never come back. Lets give them something to come home for! There are studies done that show that kids involved in sports, arts, and music are more likely to do well in school and heaven forbid maybe even ENJOY going to class or at least put up with it knowing they will have practice later that day or a concert that evening. We need to keep these programs in our schools! We are all in hard times but we need our children to know that they come first...after all they are the future leaders of this country...and, hopefully, the future leaders of the Le Mars community!

-- Posted by isucyclones on Mon, Jul 28, 2008, at 6:57 PM

wow i am really tired of shooting down everyone's points against the isl tax.. just do alittle research and you'll see why the school needs it.

please dont let your ignorance affect the community's children.

-- Posted by former_resident on Mon, Jul 28, 2008, at 5:10 PM

It is amazing to me that the school board cannot adopt and stick by a budget. I know they received less money from the state than last year and there will be a shortfall this year.

Can they not project that they have less students this year than last?

Le Mars Community Schools offers more programs, with less students, than at any time in recent history. They continue to build (this means more staff, more heat $, more electricity $) and add (the Wells admin building) which again needs more staff, more $ for heat, more $ for electricity and then scream that "student" programs will suffer.

There is no need to pass this ISL, the students are there to LEARN and not PLAY using all the latest "programs" and unneeded facilities that strike someones fancy!

-- Posted by 15yearresident on Mon, Jul 28, 2008, at 2:49 PM

I for one will vote against it and encourage all of my friends and neighbors to do the same.

Perhaps maybe you should drop sports that do not generate revenue. After all, what you are asking from us as taxpayers is revenue.

-- Posted by oldone1 on Mon, Jul 28, 2008, at 10:52 AM


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